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the state's republican governor, rick snyder, says he'll sign the right to work bill into law. even though he opposed this kind of anti-union push earlier this year. >> right to work is an issue that's a very devicive issue. people feel very strongly about it. so right to work is an issue that might have its time and place but i don't believe it's appropriate in michigan during 2012. >> how do you go from devicive and not appropriate to sure, i'll sign. just give me a pen? snyder has simply misled voters in michigan. this weekend, the detroit free press, a paper that endorsed snyder two years ago, read an editorial blasting his vote. calling him dishonest and grotesquely disingenuous. what's going on here? who's behind all of this? turns out it's some familiar faces. the coke brothers are up to their old tricks. these billionaires are helping to fuel the anti-union drive in michigan. the same way they did in wisconsin for governor scott walker. their goal now is the same as it was then. cripple unions in order to pad their corporate profits and take down a key source of support
the state's republican governor, rick snyder, says he'll sign the right to work bill into law. even though he opposed this kind of anti-union push earlier this year. >> right to work is an issue that's a very devicive issue. people feel very strongly about it. so right to work is an issue that might have its time and place but i don't believe it's appropriate in michigan during 2012. >> how do you go from devicive and not appropriate to sure, i'll sign. just give me a pen? snyder...
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they're going to follow law. they're going to submit to the local officials. the put these in the trash can. this was a case that the local election officials eventually ended up with the state board of elections calling for the attorney general to do an investigation. many have these on both sides of the aisle. i think there are very eager. i think with our specific guidelines we are able to reduce a lot of those issues to a minimum. why do i tell you this tax one of the reasons why virginia and other states are looking at online registration is it takes fact that there may be a duplicate or your name is misspelled incorrectly. i think one reason we have looked at on land registration it allows the voters, if it will help them reduce the mistakes they make, it will reduce mistakes election officials make. it will also increase the integrity of the boat tour rolls. there was some discussion about access vs [inaudible] many in the country have some problems. local and state officials have come to love this system. it is in desperate need of being upgraded. we c
they're going to follow law. they're going to submit to the local officials. the put these in the trash can. this was a case that the local election officials eventually ended up with the state board of elections calling for the attorney general to do an investigation. many have these on both sides of the aisle. i think there are very eager. i think with our specific guidelines we are able to reduce a lot of those issues to a minimum. why do i tell you this tax one of the reasons why virginia...
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actually a law you have to have a work permit, something like that that might not be too comfortable for people on the hard left. are you comfortable with making that kind of compromise as a democrat now? >> i think we need to have a pathway to citizenship. i'm the grandson of a greek immigrant. >> what about enforcement? you're going for the low hanging fruit here. what about the tough stuff. being a democrat. you got to be very weak on enforcement, don't you? >> i don't know if you have to or not. i think -- >> see how -- >> see. >> what they have to do in their heart and what they believe is right. that's what i'm going to do whatever the issue might be. i will be guided by common sense and my heart and my upbringing and whey think is fair and right for all people. >> but you're going to accept the democratic party sort of mainstream arguments, right, all of them? >> yes, yeah. >> that's quite a switch to go from being a republican who is upset and wants to be an independent and now you're saying i'm willing not to be an independent. >> i'm willing to be a democrat because i think
actually a law you have to have a work permit, something like that that might not be too comfortable for people on the hard left. are you comfortable with making that kind of compromise as a democrat now? >> i think we need to have a pathway to citizenship. i'm the grandson of a greek immigrant. >> what about enforcement? you're going for the low hanging fruit here. what about the tough stuff. being a democrat. you got to be very weak on enforcement, don't you? >> i don't know...
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he owns the results, and he can take it to the senate, which is controlled by his party within the law and live with the consequences. >> so, leader armey, i want to ask you, though, about how powerful the tea party is. is the tea party holding back house republicans and speaker boehner from agreeing to additional revenues, more than $1 trillion, raising those rates on the wealthiest americans? >> no, not at all. first of all, understand the tea party is not a political party. it is a group of people across the country that have a commitment to a set of principles. they believe economic growth is the first, most important need of this country, which means get the government to stand down, quit interfering, quit obstructing growth. >> okay. >> in so many ways, not the least of which is the epa, and you've got a the lot of members of congress that agree with that. >> leader, you are leading freedom works, an organization of tea party people. i want to ask you about that record because freedom works spent $40 million in the last election, and you had less than 1 in 4 of a winning record o
he owns the results, and he can take it to the senate, which is controlled by his party within the law and live with the consequences. >> so, leader armey, i want to ask you, though, about how powerful the tea party is. is the tea party holding back house republicans and speaker boehner from agreeing to additional revenues, more than $1 trillion, raising those rates on the wealthiest americans? >> no, not at all. first of all, understand the tea party is not a political party. it is...
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it's about not always following the strict line of the law. and we can argue about it all we want, but national survival has sometimes required extraordinary measures. >> so is that an excuse, rana? >> i was going to say, i do think it has to be said that there is a difference between lincoln's horse trading for higher purposes and waterboarding. >> hold on a second. i would say more americans were impacted by the suspension of habeas corpus than three terrorists being waterboarded. that's just -- i mean, on balance. i would also say more people -- and there is a story in the bbc yesterday about a little girl who saw her grandmother killed by an indiscriminate drone strike. i would say indiscriminate drone strikes that kill civilians a little rougher than waterboarding three terrorists. >> drone strikes are a whole different topic, and i'd certainly agree with you on that one. >> go ahead. >> i take your point, and i do think you're in murky territory. i'm disturbed by anything that makes torture look like payback. i just think that that's pro
it's about not always following the strict line of the law. and we can argue about it all we want, but national survival has sometimes required extraordinary measures. >> so is that an excuse, rana? >> i was going to say, i do think it has to be said that there is a difference between lincoln's horse trading for higher purposes and waterboarding. >> hold on a second. i would say more americans were impacted by the suspension of habeas corpus than three terrorists being...
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is really about the issue of secrecy and how this whole system, immigration has become the largest law enforcement system in the country and very much unlike the police or fbi, they operate largely in secret. so their arrests are secret, detentions are secret. today, for example, we have a story about immigrants with no criminal records detained and don't get a right to a swift and public hearing. put in jails and no one in the public has a right to know this. our criminal system is very different, because perhaps people don't want the public to know that they have been under arrest, but those public protections are there to protect the people who are -- whose liberty is taken away by the government. >> i really encourage everybody to read this. i was shocked by some of your findings. so you have another piece in tomorrow's "boston globe." a quick preview on that? >> yes, well, it starts with a 29-year-old woman from france who was trying to go back to france and she was stopped at the u.s./canadian border and jailed and she was kept in jail for 12 days, and an immigration agent made t
is really about the issue of secrecy and how this whole system, immigration has become the largest law enforcement system in the country and very much unlike the police or fbi, they operate largely in secret. so their arrests are secret, detentions are secret. today, for example, we have a story about immigrants with no criminal records detained and don't get a right to a swift and public hearing. put in jails and no one in the public has a right to know this. our criminal system is very...
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the kids going to law school now who will be supreme court justices will overrule this. the ultimate end here is simply a matter of time. >> interesting. bob woodward, the broader political landscape is what this is part of and became, i think, pretty clear this week in terms of who's doing what. hillary clinton, here's her approval rating now. or rather, would you vote for hillary clinton as president? 57% saying yes. she is leaving. she is pretty hot right now politically. is she not? >> she should take that 57% and bank it and go write a book for 3 1/2 years and say, now i'm running. i mean, she has got the perfect resume. and as i've talked about in one of my books, when she decided that she would become secretary of state for obama, which surprised lots of people, her advisers said, look, this is the perfect resume building action. and number two, if you run in 2016, you will be younger than ronald reagan was when he was inaugurated, and as we know, women are so much healthier than men, particularly at that age. >> helene, i talked to a democratic senator this week
the kids going to law school now who will be supreme court justices will overrule this. the ultimate end here is simply a matter of time. >> interesting. bob woodward, the broader political landscape is what this is part of and became, i think, pretty clear this week in terms of who's doing what. hillary clinton, here's her approval rating now. or rather, would you vote for hillary clinton as president? 57% saying yes. she is leaving. she is pretty hot right now politically. is she not?...
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others are taking advantage of the new law approved by voters in november. the same-sex marriage is getting renewed attention now that the supreme court has agreed to hear two cases next year. >>> coalition forces has -- he and two colleagues were abducted. they were returning from a health clinic near kabul. phillip joseph's two colleagues were released. coalition forces say they're taliban insurgents while two afghan officials say they're smugglers. >>> going off the fiscal cliff an i know you're wondering what that means for you. >>> and a private phone call between two australian deejays took a turn for the worst. we' capella university understands businesses are trying to come back from rough economic times. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever. when you see these problems do you take a step back, or do you want to dive right in? with a degree in business from capella university, you'll have the knowledge to go further in your career than you ever thought possible. let's get started at ca
others are taking advantage of the new law approved by voters in november. the same-sex marriage is getting renewed attention now that the supreme court has agreed to hear two cases next year. >>> coalition forces has -- he and two colleagues were abducted. they were returning from a health clinic near kabul. phillip joseph's two colleagues were released. coalition forces say they're taliban insurgents while two afghan officials say they're smugglers. >>> going off the fiscal...
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both sides of the fiscal cliff negotiations are much closer than you may think despite what law makes say publicly. jackie calms of the "new york times" picked up on something that lawmaker tim cole said recently. >> the republicans should just declare victory and taking the 98% of the tax cuts that they agree on and work next year on tax reform and see if they can't get the top rate back down again. it's hard to think that that's not where they're going to end up so why not make it clean instead of ugly. >> i think it's true that many people are saying privatery what tom cole said publicly on the show. but they believe that the politically right thing to do right now is to cut that you are losses, let tax rates go up for the most wealthy and really try for significant tax reform so that 39.6% is going to be mute. >> so the good news is that negotiations do continue, there was a meeting today between president obama and house speaker john boehner. that happened at the white house today, we are frying to get more details, we're trying to get our white house chief correspondent jessica
both sides of the fiscal cliff negotiations are much closer than you may think despite what law makes say publicly. jackie calms of the "new york times" picked up on something that lawmaker tim cole said recently. >> the republicans should just declare victory and taking the 98% of the tax cuts that they agree on and work next year on tax reform and see if they can't get the top rate back down again. it's hard to think that that's not where they're going to end up so why not...
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supporters say right to work law they help states attract businesses. opponents say right to work laws they lead to lower wages. what do you think? >> data show they lead to lower wages. governor snyder whom we had on radio show the other night. he out right lied and said this isn't part of my agenda and sneaking into the dead of night and republican house and senate with two separate bills because if they had the same bill they had to wait five days. they put it on the fast track, snuck this in and did it against the wishes and what they said to labor they would do. it's a very sneaky act on the part of the republicans. michigan is going to come back to hurt them because labor is going to organize. >> is that going to come back to by the them? >> i would say governor walker if he was able to conquer another election after a recall. i think he did. why is it so many people are afraid of the ability for a worker to decide if they wanted to join a union or not. this is not dismantling or banning unions. this is giving an individual the right to choose not
supporters say right to work law they help states attract businesses. opponents say right to work laws they lead to lower wages. what do you think? >> data show they lead to lower wages. governor snyder whom we had on radio show the other night. he out right lied and said this isn't part of my agenda and sneaking into the dead of night and republican house and senate with two separate bills because if they had the same bill they had to wait five days. they put it on the fast track, snuck...
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that's current law. i think what the speaker has support, an you should look at the proproposal that he put out. every sungal one of our major leaders signed it. all the major committee chairman, including paul ryan, who obviously has an outside role. >> $800 billion worth of rev mew. >> this is a speaker that's very strong, this is a speaker that got us through a tough election and retained our majority. i actually think this is a speaker at the prime of his power. it's not just about this period of time, it's about the next four years. the president is going to be president for the next four years, john boehner is likely to be president f-- speaker for for years. but the president needs john boehner more than john boehner needs the president. >> does the speaker have enough votes inside his caucus to agree to some kind of tax rate hike in the upper echelons of society, does he have enough votes that he can put together with whatever nancy pelosi can stir up and pass it? >> i'm not sure there's support
that's current law. i think what the speaker has support, an you should look at the proproposal that he put out. every sungal one of our major leaders signed it. all the major committee chairman, including paul ryan, who obviously has an outside role. >> $800 billion worth of rev mew. >> this is a speaker that's very strong, this is a speaker that got us through a tough election and retained our majority. i actually think this is a speaker at the prime of his power. it's not just...
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in india, her sister-in-law says she was beautiful. in britain, a nurse who worked with her came to her defense. >> i don't know what i should have done or anybody else must have done. >> reporter: london police told authorities they may be interested in speaking with the deejays about the prank. now i understand those deejays are said to be in a fragile state. at the same time, keen to speak to the media and talk about what has happened. it's possible they may do that as soon as tomorrow. thomas? >> thank you. still ahead, the looming fiscal cliff has small business owners wondering how many people they can employ. we'll get a read on that next. this new mtv show capturing the attention of one u.s. senator is not happy about it one bit. why he wants to put a showstopper on it before it hits the air. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best t
in india, her sister-in-law says she was beautiful. in britain, a nurse who worked with her came to her defense. >> i don't know what i should have done or anybody else must have done. >> reporter: london police told authorities they may be interested in speaking with the deejays about the prank. now i understand those deejays are said to be in a fragile state. at the same time, keen to speak to the media and talk about what has happened. it's possible they may do that as soon as...
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>> i think boehner is a realist and when he said things like bahama care is the law of the land and backtracked a little, that's a signal. he's saying let's jump off the boat together, not the cliff, the boat. it's about legacy for both of them. chris: the president seems to insist on a rate hike for the top bracket, something close from 35 to 39.6. does he need something more in terms of taxing the rich, like getting rid of deductions for mortgage, charity, state, local? >> he's already got in his package which totals $1.6 trillion, an additional closing loopholes, capping deductions, so yes, he does need more. the president's in a very interesting position. he's got the high ground. he has narrowed the focus. he's got john boehner has his intermediary, his contact. i'm told that white house officials have been talking almost constantly with boehner's people in a very specific discussion about the details of the package so i think he's thinking big about a package he can take to the country and say we have begun to change the mess in washington. chris: welcome to the show, michelle. first i wo
>> i think boehner is a realist and when he said things like bahama care is the law of the land and backtracked a little, that's a signal. he's saying let's jump off the boat together, not the cliff, the boat. it's about legacy for both of them. chris: the president seems to insist on a rate hike for the top bracket, something close from 35 to 39.6. does he need something more in terms of taxing the rich, like getting rid of deductions for mortgage, charity, state, local? >> he's...
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we're not talking about things -- >> within the law or lack of law for that matter. we see case after case, as i like to call it the day after marriage. won't exactly feel like that. a lot of people will wake up and realize, marriage doesn't solve every problem. it doesn't solve immigration, it doesn't solve the poverty of our country and our community is facing. it won't solve so many of the issues, economic issues that are faced by lgbt people in this country. >> one of the important arguments made around marriage equality has been about health care, right? >> one of the big arguments made is i got to be able to cover my partner, my spouse, my beloved under my health care. if we had universal health care access, then marriage would become less important for straight and gay couples. >> i think that's true. but i do think that getting over the marriage hurdle puts us well beyond where we need to be to get through some of these other really legal hurdles. i look at marriage, look, i wasn't a good straight married person. anybody who wants to get married, i'm like so
we're not talking about things -- >> within the law or lack of law for that matter. we see case after case, as i like to call it the day after marriage. won't exactly feel like that. a lot of people will wake up and realize, marriage doesn't solve every problem. it doesn't solve immigration, it doesn't solve the poverty of our country and our community is facing. it won't solve so many of the issues, economic issues that are faced by lgbt people in this country. >> one of the...
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that's current law. i think what the speaker has supported -- and you should look at the proposal he put out. the most interesting thing to me was every single one of our major leaguers signed it, paul ryan, who has a role because of his vice presidential nomination -- >> $800 billion worth of revenue. >> yes, a speaker is very strong, got us through a tough election, maintained our majority. i think this is a speaker at the peak of his power. the president will have to deal with him, and it's not just about this period of time, it's about the next four years. the president will be president for four years, john boehner is like i to be speaker for four years. so this is the first part of a relationship that will stretch for years. they need each other to succeed. >> does the speaker have enough votes inside his caucus to agree to some kind of tax rate hike in the upper echelons of society? the high wage earners? does he have those votes that he can put together with whatever nancy pelosi can stir up and
that's current law. i think what the speaker has supported -- and you should look at the proposal he put out. the most interesting thing to me was every single one of our major leaguers signed it, paul ryan, who has a role because of his vice presidential nomination -- >> $800 billion worth of revenue. >> yes, a speaker is very strong, got us through a tough election, maintained our majority. i think this is a speaker at the peak of his power. the president will have to deal with...
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. >>> on thursday, washington's state's new laws legalizing marijuana and gay marriage went into effect. >> from snl to mtv, this is no laughing matter for joe manchin. he is tanking on mtv over a new reality show. he wants the network to cancel the show, set to air early next year. the 12 episodes show cast members drinking beer, drinking, fighting, and using the bed of a truck as a swimming pool. >>> the white house now has an official appearance on pinterest. they want to make the people's house open and accessible to the public, this is one way they're doing it. the white house already has it's own twitter and facebook accounts as well. >> most of us know by now the fiscal cliff is looming. if lawmakers don't come up with a deal, our taxes will go up and dramatic spending cuts will affect agencies across the board, and that includes the food and drug administration. emily schmidt explains what it could all mean for your food. >> susan, the federal government says americans spend about a trillion dollars a year on food. there are two agencies responsible for food saety. the job is th
. >>> on thursday, washington's state's new laws legalizing marijuana and gay marriage went into effect. >> from snl to mtv, this is no laughing matter for joe manchin. he is tanking on mtv over a new reality show. he wants the network to cancel the show, set to air early next year. the 12 episodes show cast members drinking beer, drinking, fighting, and using the bed of a truck as a swimming pool. >>> the white house now has an official appearance on pinterest. they...
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it may be the law of the land. republican governors are lining up to do what they can to obstruct the affordable care act. melissa has the former obama administration official. that's melissa harris-perry coming up next. we'll see you next week here on "up." and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the num
it may be the law of the land. republican governors are lining up to do what they can to obstruct the affordable care act. melissa has the former obama administration official. that's melissa harris-perry coming up next. we'll see you next week here on "up." and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from...
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firms, law firms, lobbyists. they're trying to make this campaign and they have been highlighting multiple entities. host: this issue is as real people and real situations, but these help washington lobbying, don't they? guest: absolutely. the business of washington are people who are lobbyists and work at these nonprofits. it is an economic generator in this town. host: jim from connecticut, republican line. caller: i have two questions. first, if there is no agreement by the december 31st deadline, can the congress act in such a way that any change in the law would be retroactive to january 1, 2013? do you believe the congress will consider solving for the individual taxpayer instead of the lobbyists? how do we get that turned around? guest: my answer to the upper question now, whether or not they can retroactively take on some of these issues so they do not pass it they can go on in postdate, that is something that have done quite often in terms of tax extensions in different bills where they will pass in febr
firms, law firms, lobbyists. they're trying to make this campaign and they have been highlighting multiple entities. host: this issue is as real people and real situations, but these help washington lobbying, don't they? guest: absolutely. the business of washington are people who are lobbyists and work at these nonprofits. it is an economic generator in this town. host: jim from connecticut, republican line. caller: i have two questions. first, if there is no agreement by the december 31st...
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law enforcement authorities want more power to investigate. several groups, including chiefs of police, sheriff's associations, are pushing congress to pass a law saying your carrier has to record and store your text messages. it's not clear how long they want them stored. scott burns, of the national district attorney's association, one of the groups pushing the new law, says his group favors a period of three or four months. >> if you're in the middle of an investigation and bad guys are communicating back and forth, whether it's a homicide, whether it's evidence of a crime, its's crucial. i mean, 20 years ago, we weren't talking about this. today, everybody has a cell foenl. everybody texts and e-mails and is on social med. that's where the evidence is today. >> reporter: or not. major carriers like at&t, sprint or mobile didn't retain any content of customer's text messages. verizon keeps them for up to five days. >> scott burns says it's faster and more efficient to get from the carriers. hoe points out that, of course, the bad guys often
law enforcement authorities want more power to investigate. several groups, including chiefs of police, sheriff's associations, are pushing congress to pass a law saying your carrier has to record and store your text messages. it's not clear how long they want them stored. scott burns, of the national district attorney's association, one of the groups pushing the new law, says his group favors a period of three or four months. >> if you're in the middle of an investigation and bad guys...
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he is known there as a radical jihadist, forty-five years old, a master's degree in law. and the driving force behind a new terror group seeking to align itself with al-qaeda, according to our sources. now an egyptian official says that abu ahmad has denied any connection to the u.s. consulate attack, or al-qaeda. he is believed to be linked to a terror cell that was linked to a situation in egypt when five were arrested. >> is the fbi making progress? >> you know, don, it is hard to tell. our sources are saying they're linked to a lot of people. they're questioning a tunisian suspect, alharzi refused to speak. that is one source, abu ahmad, he is another one, we don't know the role he may have played, and five others in the alleged terror cell, what they have to do, if anything at all. in the benghazi attacks. we hope to learn more about it in the coming days. >> have fbi agents been able to get access to this guy? >> no, they're still trying to do that. they have had trouble getting access to others in other countries. there is always difficulty in helping out the unite
he is known there as a radical jihadist, forty-five years old, a master's degree in law. and the driving force behind a new terror group seeking to align itself with al-qaeda, according to our sources. now an egyptian official says that abu ahmad has denied any connection to the u.s. consulate attack, or al-qaeda. he is believed to be linked to a terror cell that was linked to a situation in egypt when five were arrested. >> is the fbi making progress? >> you know, don, it is hard...
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i want to hit on something you said earlier that it is current law if we do nothing the bush tax cuts expire and rates go up. is that fancy footwork? >> i'll let grover speak for himself. >> i will try to get as much spending cuts as i can. i'm not voting to raise taxes. i have never advocated that we should. it's a mistake. it's a spending problem. entitlement reform problem. we're going to have revenue on the table whether we want it or not. i don't think if i allowed tax rates to go up on 90% of the american people or 98% of them when i could stop it, how would letting taxes go up be a violation or make the tax cuts a violation? that's inconsistent. one other item is the payroll tax. nobody seems to be talking about that. if the pledge applies to one, it applies to the other. >> it would be much easier if we didn't have all the temporary measures or pledges. mr. yoho, have you ever spoken to grover norquist? >> i have had the opportunity to speak to him. icon vaed my feelings. he seemed okay with that. i agree with congressman cole. we have a spending problem in this country. we've
i want to hit on something you said earlier that it is current law if we do nothing the bush tax cuts expire and rates go up. is that fancy footwork? >> i'll let grover speak for himself. >> i will try to get as much spending cuts as i can. i'm not voting to raise taxes. i have never advocated that we should. it's a mistake. it's a spending problem. entitlement reform problem. we're going to have revenue on the table whether we want it or not. i don't think if i allowed tax rates to...
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the law had a big effect on edie windsor of new york who married tea spire in 2007. when spire died the irs sent a tax bill for $300,000 because it did not consider them to be married. >> the injustice. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with and loveded for 43 something years. >> under that law, same sex couples who are legally married are denied about 1,000 federal benefits that other married couples get. after first supporting the defense of marriage act, the obama administration concluded last year that it violates the constitution. >> we cannot defend the federal government poking its nose into what states are doing and putting the thumb on the scale against same sex companies. >> reporter: house republicans are now taking up the law's legal defense. supporters say it helps preserve traditional marriage. >> unions of two men and two women are not the same thing as a marriage between a man and a woman. only marriage between a man and a woman can connect children to their mother and father and their parents to the children. >> re
the law had a big effect on edie windsor of new york who married tea spire in 2007. when spire died the irs sent a tax bill for $300,000 because it did not consider them to be married. >> the injustice. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with and loveded for 43 something years. >> under that law, same sex couples who are legally married are denied about 1,000 federal benefits that other married couples get. after first supporting the defense of...
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the 1996 law denies federal benefits to legally married same-sex couples. right now around 120,000 legally married same-sex couples in the u.s. the second is california's proposition 8. that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state. a decision on these cases is expected next year. >>> is this the end of gangnum style mania? korean pop star psy which is the most watched video in youtube history is apologizing for an anti-american lyrics that aired in 2004. made its way around online. it included lyrics calling for the deaths of american troops serving in iraq. in his apology he said his performance was emotionally charged and, "while i'm grateful for the freedom to express one self, i learn there is some limits to what language is appropriate and i'm deeply sorry for how these lyrics will be interpreted. i will forever be sorry for any pain i have caused by those words." >>> we've got much more ahead this hour. here's a look at what's coming up. >>> it was the picture that spark eed outrage. what the photographer that snapped that disturbing subway photo
the 1996 law denies federal benefits to legally married same-sex couples. right now around 120,000 legally married same-sex couples in the u.s. the second is california's proposition 8. that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state. a decision on these cases is expected next year. >>> is this the end of gangnum style mania? korean pop star psy which is the most watched video in youtube history is apologizing for an anti-american lyrics that aired in 2004. made its way around online....
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joining us is the chief justice professor at constitutional law at nyu law school. thank you for being here. that's a great title. >> thanks, ezra. >> my question is simple, why now? >> in part, the court is a passive institution. it can't reach out and grab cases. but i think there's an additional layer to your question. why didn't the court say we're not going to review this case? even if it's being petitioned to us. one of the cases that we didn't look at in your excellent introduction is a 1956 case called maine versus maine, this is right after brown versus board of education when they are handing out these orders extending the principle at public accommodations. but it has a marriage case and gets rid of it and says this is too soon. and so it sits 11 years later to take it up. many of us thought this is exactly what's going to happen with the prop 8 case. the doma case is slightly different for reasons we can go into. but many of us thought the prop 8 case it's going to go back. it's going to be legal in california but nowhere else and the court is going to w
joining us is the chief justice professor at constitutional law at nyu law school. thank you for being here. that's a great title. >> thanks, ezra. >> my question is simple, why now? >> in part, the court is a passive institution. it can't reach out and grab cases. but i think there's an additional layer to your question. why didn't the court say we're not going to review this case? even if it's being petitioned to us. one of the cases that we didn't look at in your excellent...
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law or could change u.s. law. former republican attorney general dick thornburgh who helped negotiate this treaty on behalf of president george bush said emphatically it would have no effect on u.s. law, not now, not ever. is he wrong? >> well, i respectfully disagree with the former attorney general's conclusions. i look at the treaty and i see one provision that arguably sets in place international entitlement rights. another provision that can be read to undermine the rights of parents to make decisions on how best to educate and otherwise care for their children with disabilities. and another provision of the treaty that can be read to obligate the united states government to pay for abortion services. >> you are just interpreting things. it doesn't -- it never uses the word abortion. it basically says on -- that disabled people should have the same access to health care that other people have. that nondisabled people have overseas. again, we're talking about overseas. >> it does refer to reproductive rights a
law or could change u.s. law. former republican attorney general dick thornburgh who helped negotiate this treaty on behalf of president george bush said emphatically it would have no effect on u.s. law, not now, not ever. is he wrong? >> well, i respectfully disagree with the former attorney general's conclusions. i look at the treaty and i see one provision that arguably sets in place international entitlement rights. another provision that can be read to undermine the rights of parents...
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act law is still in effect. that lists marijuana as a schedule 1 narcotic, along with heroin, cocaine and lsd. they are saying congress decided this in 1970. it's out of our hands. we, the obama administration, the justice department, have an obligation to enforce the law as it stands, and that right now is in direct conflict with two states, washington and colorado. let alone with the states that have medical marijuana in place which is over 18. because one of the criteria for being a schedule 1 narcotic is that there's no medical use demonstrated. so that is a fascinating conflict between the feds and states rights. people voting in these states increasingly to legalize at least medical marijuana. >> is there any sort of spillover effect you can see here on to other laws like immigration issues or gay marriage or anything else like that because i would think that the white house would not want to be seen as picking and choosing where it decides the federal government is supposed to be in charge. >> you are rig
act law is still in effect. that lists marijuana as a schedule 1 narcotic, along with heroin, cocaine and lsd. they are saying congress decided this in 1970. it's out of our hands. we, the obama administration, the justice department, have an obligation to enforce the law as it stands, and that right now is in direct conflict with two states, washington and colorado. let alone with the states that have medical marijuana in place which is over 18. because one of the criteria for being a schedule...
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so i think that doma law goes by the wayside. the second question is an equal protection question and goes specifically at the california referendum which -- >> the proposition 8. >> the proposition, proposition 8, which makes it illegal under california law to have gay marriage. they will look at that under the equal protection clause. i think it's a little bit hazardous to anticipate where the court will go on that question, and i would be reluctant to do that, but that's kind of an equal protection question. the request he is will the court be ahead of where the public is or behind the public. this is a question that eventually sooner or later, probably sooner, the public will come around to recognize and already is showing by the polls that marriage equality should be considered a fundamental constitutional right. >> professor peterson, to julian's point, despite its rulings on the president's health care law, on immigration, this court maintains a conservative tilt. is this necessarily good news for supporters of same-sex ma
so i think that doma law goes by the wayside. the second question is an equal protection question and goes specifically at the california referendum which -- >> the proposition 8. >> the proposition, proposition 8, which makes it illegal under california law to have gay marriage. they will look at that under the equal protection clause. i think it's a little bit hazardous to anticipate where the court will go on that question, and i would be reluctant to do that, but that's kind of...
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there was a 1972 case where the supreme court was asked to rule on guy marriage law in minnesota and they basically said there's no substantial federal question there. it's not for us and kicked it out. but that wasn't a very -- that wasn't a very heavy intellectual lifting there. this is the first time they will confront this case directly for this issue. >> pete, last time we saw a highly controversial case in obama care, we saw a full court press really lobby the justices and put a lot of pressure on them recognizing that they will set the tone of what this court looks like. do you think we'll see that hard lobbying again? >> reporter: well, i don't think it will be quite like that, because there isn't as much money at stake like he in obama care. obviously, to many people on both sides of this issue, it's an important values question. it will attract lots of friends of court briefs. remember, only nine states chose to make same-sex marriage legal, and many other states, the majority of states in the u.s. have decided not to allow it or amended their constitutions to forbid it. so
there was a 1972 case where the supreme court was asked to rule on guy marriage law in minnesota and they basically said there's no substantial federal question there. it's not for us and kicked it out. but that wasn't a very -- that wasn't a very heavy intellectual lifting there. this is the first time they will confront this case directly for this issue. >> pete, last time we saw a highly controversial case in obama care, we saw a full court press really lobby the justices and put a lot...